Taylor Swift Addresses Joe Alwyn, Matty Healy Breakups in Rare Comment

In Taylor Swift’s Eras Tour: The End of an Era Disney+ documentary, “The Life of a Showgirl” singer shares how her breakups with Joe Alwyn and Matty Healy affected her before meeting Travis Kelce.

Taylor Swift shared how she was able to do the Eras Tour with a broken heart.  In “The Life of a Showgirl” singer’s new Eras Tour: The End of an Era documentary, she shared rare insight into her breakups with Joe Alwyn and Matty Healy in 2023, both of which occurred in the early days of the Eras Tour.

“There were points in this tour where the tour was really the only thing keeping me going in my life,” Taylor admitted in the fourth episode released Dec. 19. “But there were never points in the tour where I thought, ‘Oh I want to quit the tour because the tour is hard.’ No, my personal life was hard.”

And while Taylor has only ever addressed her recent breakups through her songwriting, she shared a brief reflection on what it was like to end her six-year relationship with Joe in April 2023, and then break up with Matty following a short dalliance in June 2023.

“I went through two breakups on the first half of this tour,” she admitted. “That’s a lot of breakups, actually. This show is what gave me purpose and what I could use to get me out of bed. The tour has never been the hard thing in my life. The tour has been the thing that allowed me to find purpose outside of the s–t that was going on in my life.”  As she put it, “Men will let you down, the Eras Tour never will.”

Although she has never spoken directly about her past breakups, Taylor did turn her emotions into art for her 2024 album The Tortured Poets Department, where she included songs that many fans consider to be about Matty and Joe.

As for Matty, six months after the album was released, The 1975 singer subtly shaded Taylor’s project, noting that he “wasn’t interested” in drawing on his own famous lore to write his songs.

“I would kind of just be lying if I made a record about, I don’t know, all the stuff that was said about me or my casual romantic liaisons,” he explained on an October 2024 episode of The Doomscroll podcast, “or whatever it may be that I’ve kind of become known for, just because I was famous.”

Joe, meanwhile, has more directly shut down speculation on his and Taylor’s breakup.  “As everyone knows, we together—both of us, mutually—decided to keep the more private details of our relationship private,” he told The Sunday Times in 2024. “It was never something to commodify and I see no reason to change that now.”

He emphasized, “There is always going to be a gap between what is known and what is said. I have made my peace with that.”  Nevertheless, Taylor has long turned her inner world into songwriting fuel.